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  • in reply to: Is enforced amalgamation the answer? (Scenario 1) #192
    JohnB
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    No, it has not worked in recent years. Churches which did meld have now gone their separate ways.

    in reply to: Add your overall feedback/response to the Thesis #189
    JohnB
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    Working in one of the care organisations which now comes under the umbrella of Uniting Care it is very clear that the Christian Ethic is being eroded away by the need to justify the dollars spent. Care for individuals is on a “money from the government” basis rather than on a needs basis.

    The rules and regulations also hinder the expression of basic human compassion.

    The church does not have a say in the running of these organisations. The people in positions of responsibility are not Christian and so their world view soon becomes dominant. There is lip service given to providing quality care for clients, residents and staff. They spout values and outcomes but the mighty dollar is the driving force in the care industry. Often the most vulnerable people are the ones who suffer. To speak out against injustice is difficult as any problems identified are rationalised against the lack of funds – everyone is doing their best!!! The UC is not running these care organisations.

    Perhaps it would be better for the UC to break the ties with big business and the need to justify spending to the government. The majority of UC congregations do not see that they have a link or responsibility to the care organisations, educational institutions or human services run in the name of the UC.

    JohnB
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    There may be no option in the future. The core business of the early church was spreading the gospel – that is the knowledge of who Jesus is and what he has done on our behalf.

    This was done in small groups, often because of persecution.

    Persecution of Christians will come again and that will see the church grow – but not as a multifaceted conglomerate which it is now.

    in reply to: Is the Uniting Church in decline? #181
    JohnB
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    Yes, but then so are most Christian churches. That does not mean that Christianity is also on the decline. The people are not going to come to the church – so we need to go to where the people are.

    We need to educate UC members, help them to understand what they believe and why. The Bible needs to be re-valued in the lives of believers.

    Christianity needs to be a way of life not a Sunday activity.

    in reply to: Should we let the parishes fade away? (Scenario 2) #170
    JohnB
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    It is not a case of letting them, they are. Perhaps it would be practical to close down those churches which cannot support their own buildings. For many supporting a minister is out of the questions. Often UC are on prime land and yet the church is not functional. Maintaining large empty buildings is a misuse of resources. Selling the property and investing the money to provide resources for small fellowships to focus on the core business of sharing the Gospel makes sense. There are enough larger churches around which can be host to seasonal celebrations for all believers. Because of the transient life style led by many, the need for long term commitment and loyalty to a parish church is no longer part of society. Sell the old establishments and fund those who are taking the gospel to schools, universities, nursing homes, prisons, hospitals, government departments, sporting organisations, the list goes on –

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